Saturday, February 16


Since I decided to support Hillary Clinton's candidacy, I have spoken to as many people as I can about the relative merits of our two Democratic presidential candidates. I've divided my time in the past week almost evenly between Dallas and Fort Lauderdale, Florida. In Dallas I spoke to colleagues at work, primarily Democrats and women of all types (I count Republican men as lost). In Fort Lauderdale I was conducting a series of video interviews with the principals of large developers, architectural and engineering firms, and specialty contractors, and after the interviews as we made small talk I diverted the subect to politics. What I found, in the main, were undecideds. Other than declared Republicans, I encountered people who were wrestling with the Clinton-Obama decision. I discovered that one of my interview subjects, a renowned Florida architect, was also a Democratic mayor of a small Florida suburb. He told me that his wife and daughter were supporting Hillary, his two sons Obama -- but he himself was still unsure of what he should do as a superdelegate. I asked him how he voted in the primary, and he told me, "Hillary."

But nearly everyone I spoke to told me they get most of their information from the traditional media, and even when they said the Internet, they explained that they were just reading the traditional media ON the Internet (e.g.,, In both cases they seemed aware that with the MSM they learn mostly negatives about Hillary and are swamped with Obamamania, which they don't exactly get but can't deny that the results are very impressive.

So I gave them all my blog address (I don't often do that) and promised to list some blogs that either support Hillary, have some contributors who do, or whose reporting is relatively balanced. Frankly, the left blogosphere has mostly "drunk the kool-aid" for Obama, so outright pro-Hillary web sites are not pervasive. At this time, I have to appreciate those blogs that offer, at the minimum, some perspective or balance. I've also decided not to de-list from my years-old blogroll those progressives who have let their anti-Hillary or outright Hillary-hatred-based positions run amok, but at least here I can highlight those blogs that will deliver some fair and accurate information about the Clinton campaign. I'm sure there are many more that could be included (I wish I knew what they were), but this is the best I can offer:

Taylor Marsh
The Confluence
Suburban Guerrilla
No Quarter (Larry Johnson)
Open Left
The Daily Howler
Greg's Opinion
The Democratic Daily
Hillary's Bloggers
Women's Media Center
Talk Left
Digby (Hullabaloo)
The Left Coaster

I'll just add here at the end, that I'm terribly worried, almost alarmed, that the anti-Hillary contingent among the progressive blogosphere is showing evidence of a willingness to fracture the Democratic Party if their candidate, Obama, is not the party nominee, while seemingly all pro-Hillary adherents are making it clear that they will wholeheartedly support Obama if he is, in the end, our standard-bearer. Let me say now, as I remarked to The Sage a few minutes ago, that despite my wholehearted support of the Clinton campaign, I will comfortably and happily do everything I can to advance Barack Obama to the presidency if he ends up as our nominee.

Would you prefer John "100 years in Iraq" McCain? Grow up.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Subject: The Clinton Body Bags..

Question: How can a person who has been decapitated have his death ruled "natural causes?

Food for Thought"

Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has happened to many "friends"of the Clintons.

1. James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

2. Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown . The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3. Vince Foster - Former White House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4. Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller committed suicide.

5. C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6. Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".

7. Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8. Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock . Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock . Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton . He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9. James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

10. James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

11. Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12. Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancée of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancée, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancée.

13. Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14. Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena, Arkansas Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15. Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16. Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992 . She died in a one car accident.

17. Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18. Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19. Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20. Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21. Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22. Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.

23. Barry Seal -Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.

24. Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25. Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26. Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

27. Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes".

Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989. THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
Major William S. Barkley Jr.

Captain Scott J . Reynolds

Sgt. Brian Hanley

Sgt. Tim Sabel

Major General William Robertson

Col. William Densberger

Col. Robert Kelly

Spec. Gary Rhodes

Steve Willis

Robert Williams

Conway LeBleu

Todd McKeehan Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become aware of what happens to friends of the Clinton's!


4:52 PM  
Blogger Motherlode said...

Learn something, buddy:

"Probably everyone with an Internet account in the mid- to late 1990s received, at one time or another, a version of the "Clinton Body Count." And of course, there remain even today a panoply of Web site devoted to circulating this tale. And any number of conservative columnists and TV pundits made passing references to it, lending it further credence. But the "Body Count" has been thoroughly debunked as a fraud many times; the best remains this assessment from Clinton Body Count. "


6:16 PM  
Blogger Motherlode said...

6:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In Huber Heights, Ohio, on Saturday, Mrs. Clinton said, referring to Mr. Obama, “I’m not asking you to take a leap of faith on me. I’m asking you to look at the record.”

Mrs. Clinton, I am STILL looking at the record….. the Rose Law Firm’s billing records…… which magically appeared in the white house bearing your fingerprints after having been supoenaed for more than a year. I believe you said you had “no idea” how they got there. When you have an idea, come solicit my vote.

4:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i am a 55 yr old black woman who would never VOTE FOR OBAMA.HE & HIS WIFE NEED AN ATTITUDE ADJUSTMENT

7:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


If you are a Hillary supporter who refuses to vote for Obama and can't imagine voting for McCain, there is another option:

Obama suppurters - don't be duped by the mainstream media. Do the research and use your brain!

7:50 AM  
Blogger consultant said...

No 55 year old black woman would say that. 65 maybe, 75 certainly.

Boy, the trolls are everywhere!

3:26 PM  
Blogger Colleen said...

I thought I'd chime in with a different perspective. I'm a military mom; my only son is currently on his second tour in Iraq. His first tour was quite an eye opener. Some of the things he wrote about in his letters horrified me, and when he came back home I begged him to pursue a new avenue so he wouldn't get sent back.

But like many of the heroes serving there today, he told me his country needed him, and he would do all that is asked until they can ask no more. He will be voting this year through an absentee ballot, and he's voting Obama for one simple reason: through his firsthand experience in Iraq, he knows Americans can't afford another President who will wage unneeded wars. Many of his fellow soldiers feel the same. For them, their vote could be the difference between coming home to their families, or fighting for their lives in a country that does not want them nor need them.

I ask you to please reconsider. McCain has already aligned himself closely with the policies of the Bush administration, and he's made it clear that he wants a lengthy US military commitment to Iraq. As tensions in the region rise, I fear that a McCain presidency would not only mean my son will be sent on a third and fourth tour to Iraq, but that we'll also have a very real danger of falling into another unneeded conflict with Iran before his term is over.

1:01 PM  
Blogger Greenconsciousness said...

Join PUMA (Party Unity My Ass)

7:13 PM  
Blogger Greenconsciousness said...

Colleen is well...disrespectul of and using the military attachment in an evil way. -She/he just left the same message on several other Hillary blogs. Ask military families what they think of letters like this. Outside of Code Pink this is considered abhorrent.

7:18 PM  
Anonymous Trisha said...

Supportive Hillary Blog for NOBAMA is

10:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re: anynoumous’s blog. You probably know, but It’s a cut and paste from:

China's "Bamboo Network"
By Carl F. Horowitz | Friday, March 09, 2007

It went all over the Topix sites in Mar and April. I found around around 154,000 google hits at the time. On the site is a good partial list of contributors. If their name pops up somewhere you can bet the rabid right wing bats a fluttering about and looking to bite. It just never hurts have your net.


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